02-05-2011 20:07:59 | ||
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LouJ
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I arrived at Amsterdam Centraal from Utrecht on Friday 29th April 2010 and a few kilometres before arriving I saw a large number of 1700 and 1800 electrics out of use. I think these locos were used for push-pull services until delivery of new electric units. Has anyone got a list of which electric locos are stored at this location? Any help would be appreciated. |
02-05-2011 20:20:24 | ||
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bjornl
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You probably mean the Dijksgracht (Dgr) yard. All 1800 locos have been set aside along with the DDM-1 carriages; the locos that were recently seen here are: 1824 1832 1833 1835 1836 1839 1843 1844 1845 1846 1849 1851 Some 1700 class locos have also been set aside. Locos that have been seen at Dgr recently: 1729 1737 1754 1762 1771 1772 1774 1775 |
02-05-2011 20:51:44 | ||
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bogger
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Although these locos aren't really stored because of the arrival of new units. NS(Dutch Railways) is slowly phasing out the use of locos. Some of the carriages are not used anymore, and other ones are being revised and assembled as a trainset which consists completely out of 'carriages' so to speak, where the power units are in/on/under some of the carriages Nothing to worry about though, it will take a while before we will see the last loco leave%02% |
03-05-2011 03:51:30 | ||
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ruysdael
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QuoteOnly the 1700 electrics were used for push-pull services. Primarily, the 1800 electrics have recently been used in combination with the train type: DDM-1 (double deck). This type of train is currently not used in regular train services, so the 1800's aren't necessary any longer. Recently some of the 1800's did show up in de Intercityservice from Schiphol Airport to Berlin, but i don't know if this still happens nowadays. Maybe an other user can figure that out? |
03-05-2011 09:11:33 | ||
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Jannn2009
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For sure they did show up in the IC-service to Berlin, but i haven't seen any of the 1800's on this train since the DDM-1 coaches are out of service (I believe they both went out of service at the same time). Some of the 1800's were used for transfering other locs or coaches without passengers. Laatst bewerkt door Jannn2009 op 03-05-2011 09:12 |
03-05-2011 09:34:07 | ||
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bjornl
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Quote1700 locos are used in push-pull services with DD-AR (double deck) coaches and with ICR coaches. They were and are still used to pull other (currently mostly international) trains. 1800 locos were also used to pull "other" trains, but they were also used in push-pull services with DDM-1 (double deck) coaches. |
03-05-2011 09:45:12 | ||
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Dre
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Quote Haven't seen them around here recently... (and this service practically runs along my house). All Schiphol-Berlin trains are being pulled by 1700 loco's nowadays (for the Dutch part that is of course). Laatst bewerkt door Dre op 03-05-2011 09:47 |
03-05-2011 10:39:52 | ||
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john2
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Gelukkig voor mij kon ik gebruik maken van de rechtse muisknop en dan op vertalen met Live Search klikken. |
03-05-2011 20:19:23 | ||
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MDDM
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Alle 1800 locs die nu op de Dgr staan 1830 1823 1834 1828 1827 1831 1839 1837 1829 1824 1832 1833 1835 1836 1840 1843 1844 1845 1846 1848 1849 1851 1854 Alle 1700 locs die op de Dgr staan: 1729 1734 1737 1754 1762 1770 1771 1774 1775 Gr Joop mcn Lls |
03-05-2011 20:27:13 | ||
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LouJ
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Thanks for your help. During my journey I saw 1700 class electrics and was wondering where they worked. I did see some on push-pull services at Amsterdam Centraal and another one at Utrecht on an IC train. It is good that they are still working as sadly I think Holland (like Britain) is gradually becoming an "EMU only zone". PS Sorry to be posting in English - sadly my Dutch is very limited so please accept my apologies. Laatst bewerkt door LouJ op 03-05-2011 20:28 |
03-05-2011 21:11:07 | ||
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Bert13
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Don't be sorry, I'm glad you asked it! And if people mind the English, Google Translate is a helpful friend, if necessairy. He fought bravely, but lost the battle against technology - 07-06-2015 |
03-05-2011 21:59:54 | ||
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daniel81
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You can find locomotives 1700 in a.o. these services: IC Schiphol Airport-Bad Bentheim (-Berlin) IC Roosendaal-Zwolle (app. 1/2 of all trains) IC Den Haag centraal-Venlo (also not al trains) IC Schiphol-Amsterdam Centraal-Lelystad IC Schiphol-Amsterdam Zuid-Lelystad IC Amsterdam Centraal-Zandvoort Sprinter Amsterdam-Centraal-Haarlem-Uitgeest. |
04-05-2011 00:51:50 | ||
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Pim530
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Don't forget these: Semi-fast train Breda - Dordrecht - Amsterdam C Local train Dordrecht - Rotterdam - The Hague - Schiphol Airport - Hilversum - Utrecht C Intercity Utrecht C - Hilversum - Almere C Local train Utrecht C - Amersfoort - Zwolle |
04-05-2011 04:16:10 | ||
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ruysdael
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QuoteYeah unfortunetaly youre completely right. You should go to Germany, there are many more types of loco's in service than in Holland... |
04-05-2011 18:29:59 | ||
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thom
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I think replacing of dieselloco's for electric ones as we speak in Britain en the Netherlands is no else for Germany actualy... Laatst bewerkt door thom op 04-05-2011 18:31 |
04-05-2011 19:29:59 | ||
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broek53
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Quote It seemes to have escaped everybody's attention, but since 21 and 22 april more engines have been stashed away on Dijksgracht (be it rather hidden away): 1842, 1847, 1850, 1853, 1857, 1858. Which means that only 1855 is not there; it is on Watergraafsmeer nearby, also out of service. Quote Plus 1731 and 1748. Also out of service: 1755 on Watergraafsmeer, coopled with 1855 (what's in a number) Laatst bewerkt door broek53 op 04-05-2011 19:30 |
04-05-2011 19:55:01 | ||
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TheKnitter
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Wat hier nu dan al niet behandeld is, begrijp ik geen bal van. Ik dacht dat Somda Nederlands was (TS kan ook Translate gebruiken): "1) Probeer de berichten in leesbaar Nederlands te schrijven," Of begrijp ik iets fout Laatst bewerkt door TheKnitter op 04-05-2011 19:55 Vrijwilliger/webmaster Stichting DE-III http://www.stichtingde3.nl |
04-05-2011 19:56:34 | ||
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Bert13
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Voor deze ENE keer, kunnen we de man toch in netjes Steenkolenengels antwoord geven, elkaar een dienst bewijzen mag ook wel eens. Bovendien staat de inleiding op "Mijn Somda" ook in het Engels, als je niet ingelogd bent. Laatst bewerkt door Bert13 op 04-05-2011 19:56 He fought bravely, but lost the battle against technology - 07-06-2015 |
04-05-2011 20:05:28 | ||
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broek53
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QuoteEr staat "probeer". Aangezien mij dat niet lukt, probeer ik het ook eens in het angelsaksisch |
04-05-2011 20:07:42 | ||
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admin
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Precies. Af en toe Engels is geen enkel probleem. Met vriendelijke groet, Peter van der Leek |
04-05-2011 20:33:00 | ||
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MDDM
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@Broek53, de loc's in mijn lijstje zijn de gene die ik vanuit de cabine heb kunnen waarnemen. Bedankt voor je aanvullende nummers. Gr Joop mcn Lls |